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	<title>Comments on: SEO University: Should Academia Be Our Standard?</title>
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		<title>By: Jane Copland</title>
		<link>http://www.seo-chicks.com/609/seo-university.html#comment-26120</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane Copland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 13:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kelly,

It&#039;s still a point of contention whether this would actually work, and Jon Henshaw did a nice job today of talking about why he would not be for industry certification: http://raventools.com/blog/seo-certification-is-stupid/

This certainly isn&#039;t the same as general training, and I definitely don&#039;t agree with the vigilante activity that tends to go on in the SEO world regarding things that the loudest community members don&#039;t like, even if they are in the right. However, in the years since I wrote this post, I&#039;ve competed in some very difficult markets for rankings. There is no way that companies trying to rank for terms like [poker] or [insurance] would see fit to adhere to rules defined in their licenses. They&#039;d likely do themselves a disservice if they did.

SEO is very different to plumbing, and norms apply to both industries that don&#039;t apply to the other. I don&#039;t think you can compare them when deciding what should be licensed. And as Jon says in his piece, &quot;People are going to do stupid things, regardless of whether or not they are certified.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kelly,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s still a point of contention whether this would actually work, and Jon Henshaw did a nice job today of talking about why he would not be for industry certification: <a href="http://raventools.com/blog/seo-certification-is-stupid/" rel="nofollow">http://raventools.com/blog/seo-certification-is-stupid/</a></p>
<p>This certainly isn&#8217;t the same as general training, and I definitely don&#8217;t agree with the vigilante activity that tends to go on in the SEO world regarding things that the loudest community members don&#8217;t like, even if they are in the right. However, in the years since I wrote this post, I&#8217;ve competed in some very difficult markets for rankings. There is no way that companies trying to rank for terms like [poker] or [insurance] would see fit to adhere to rules defined in their licenses. They&#8217;d likely do themselves a disservice if they did.</p>
<p>SEO is very different to plumbing, and norms apply to both industries that don&#8217;t apply to the other. I don&#8217;t think you can compare them when deciding what should be licensed. And as Jon says in his piece, &#8220;People are going to do stupid things, regardless of whether or not they are certified.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Search Engine Optimization in Academia &#171; expertisepr</title>
		<link>http://www.seo-chicks.com/609/seo-university.html#comment-26077</link>
		<dc:creator>Search Engine Optimization in Academia &#171; expertisepr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2011 03:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] blog post by Jane Copland, a blogger and ex-SEOmoz employee, she addresses the advantages and disadvantages [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] blog post by Jane Copland, a blogger and ex-SEOmoz employee, she addresses the advantages and disadvantages [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
		<link>http://www.seo-chicks.com/609/seo-university.html#comment-25570</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 21:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With as many business today needing SEO and GOOD Search Engine Optimization at that, some sort of formal education to set a standard is a must. Otherwise we&#039;ll have 100 people telling the same client 100 different things, and it&#039;s quite possible none of them are right.

It&#039;s why we have licensed plumbers and electricians. 

We should probably have licensed SEO people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With as many business today needing SEO and GOOD Search Engine Optimization at that, some sort of formal education to set a standard is a must. Otherwise we&#8217;ll have 100 people telling the same client 100 different things, and it&#8217;s quite possible none of them are right.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s why we have licensed plumbers and electricians. </p>
<p>We should probably have licensed SEO people.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
		<link>http://www.seo-chicks.com/609/seo-university.html#comment-25566</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe one day they will offer this in a college course.</description>
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		<title>By: http://24hseo.com</title>
		<link>http://www.seo-chicks.com/609/seo-university.html#comment-17152</link>
		<dc:creator>http://24hseo.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 05:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps it will start as it did with most others, a single class on the subject and then a few more classes added on. Perhaps there will be a degree or perhaps not but I think it would be cool to have at least some basic training out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps it will start as it did with most others, a single class on the subject and then a few more classes added on. Perhaps there will be a degree or perhaps not but I think it would be cool to have at least some basic training out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Colleen</title>
		<link>http://www.seo-chicks.com/609/seo-university.html#comment-16463</link>
		<dc:creator>Colleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps if we included an SEO course into Web Development curriculum, I could talk about more complex problems to web developers rather then have to explain to them why it&#039;s probably not a good idea to create a site 100% in flash or AJAX.

As far as time and money go, I&#039;m more than happy to teach that class if it means the entire SEO community will enable them to place their energy into other SEO practices.

Also, maybe SEO shouldn&#039;t be centered around web developers, maybe it should centered around writers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps if we included an SEO course into Web Development curriculum, I could talk about more complex problems to web developers rather then have to explain to them why it&#8217;s probably not a good idea to create a site 100% in flash or AJAX.</p>
<p>As far as time and money go, I&#8217;m more than happy to teach that class if it means the entire SEO community will enable them to place their energy into other SEO practices.</p>
<p>Also, maybe SEO shouldn&#8217;t be centered around web developers, maybe it should centered around writers?</p>
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		<title>By: This Week In Search Marketing Staffing - 10/14/08</title>
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		<dc:creator>This Week In Search Marketing Staffing - 10/14/08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a posting on SEOchick, Jane Copeland weighed out the pros and cons of an SEO degree in,&#160;SEO University: Should Academia Be Our Standard?&#160; Looking at her breakdown, there are definitely more cons to SEO becoming an academic [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a posting on SEOchick, Jane Copeland weighed out the pros and cons of an SEO degree in,&nbsp;SEO University: Should Academia Be Our Standard?&nbsp; Looking at her breakdown, there are definitely more cons to SEO becoming an academic [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Judith 'deCabbit' Lewis</title>
		<link>http://www.seo-chicks.com/609/seo-university.html#comment-16459</link>
		<dc:creator>Judith 'deCabbit' Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always think of it as more of a &quot;critical thinking&quot; gig thana practical guide to how to do a job.

I mean, they don&#039;t teach lawyers how to win cases or anything - they teach them how to understand and interpret the law and the like.  It&#039;s not an exact how-to guide but more of teaching the skills which will be brought to bear in a situation.

So really could not SEO be &quot;taught&quot; through simply understanding how and why and whatnot and leave the actual learning to the first appointment after graduation?

Or should I stop watching reruns of &quot;Legally Blonde&quot; on TV...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always think of it as more of a &#8220;critical thinking&#8221; gig thana practical guide to how to do a job.</p>
<p>I mean, they don&#8217;t teach lawyers how to win cases or anything &#8211; they teach them how to understand and interpret the law and the like.  It&#8217;s not an exact how-to guide but more of teaching the skills which will be brought to bear in a situation.</p>
<p>So really could not SEO be &#8220;taught&#8221; through simply understanding how and why and whatnot and leave the actual learning to the first appointment after graduation?</p>
<p>Or should I stop watching reruns of &#8220;Legally Blonde&#8221; on TV&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.seo-chicks.com/609/seo-university.html#comment-16458</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 11:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those who can do, those who can&#039;t teach.

Especially in such a money-driven industry as SEO, which means the only teachers will be failed/crap SEOs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those who can do, those who can&#8217;t teach.</p>
<p>Especially in such a money-driven industry as SEO, which means the only teachers will be failed/crap SEOs.</p>
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		<title>By: seo blog</title>
		<link>http://www.seo-chicks.com/609/seo-university.html#comment-16457</link>
		<dc:creator>seo blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 06:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole idea of SEO academia probably can&#039;t be tought in a class room. It changes to much and would go out of date before the end of a single class</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole idea of SEO academia probably can&#8217;t be tought in a class room. It changes to much and would go out of date before the end of a single class</p>
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