Comments on: The Uncertainty Of Link Building http://www.seo-chicks.com/1216/the-uncertainty-of-link-building.html The SEO Blog with attitude Fri, 10 Feb 2012 05:59:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Jaron http://www.seo-chicks.com/1216/the-uncertainty-of-link-building.html#comment-18222 Jaron Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:31:00 +0000 http://www.seo-chicks.com/?p=1216#comment-18222 Great post! I agree that each link "isn't something to be taken lightly." Especially when sometimes we work so hard to get them. Or, as you mentioned, even pay to get them. Then after you've received the link, who's to say that it stays live on the site months down the road? Great post! I agree that each link “isn’t something to be taken lightly.” Especially when sometimes we work so hard to get them. Or, as you mentioned, even pay to get them. Then after you’ve received the link, who’s to say that it stays live on the site months down the road?

]]> By: Brett Pringle http://www.seo-chicks.com/1216/the-uncertainty-of-link-building.html#comment-18164 Brett Pringle Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:25:20 +0000 http://www.seo-chicks.com/?p=1216#comment-18164 Sincerely doubt links will fall out of the current algo's, Google's algo itself PageRank is based on link equity, etc among other things. A link, or should we say a "vote" from a website it not bad, nor should we worry about being seen as manipulating links, what makes common sense usually works 99% of the time. Heck, i'll take a no follow link from a decent website anytime, depends on what i want out of the link :) Openly asking for links is not bad, selling links for the sole intention of manipulating the algo, i.e. Buy TBPR 5 links here, is something that Google is taking a closer look at @Dianne. So that falls right in line with what Stuart mentions, if the average non power user or mom and pop site does not understand what we SEM folks know about links, should they be at all punished? What probably makes a big difference, is the fact that you take the time to actually think about links and what you want to achieve, whereas some simply grab a mass submission tool of some sorts and randomly submit garbage to no avail. My 2 cents, i think the fuss about manipulation and looking natural is much about nothing (let alone is they truly understand it) and simply confuses people reading about it, sending them off in a direction they don't really need to go. Sincerely doubt links will fall out of the current algo’s, Google’s algo itself PageRank is based on link equity, etc among other things.

A link, or should we say a “vote” from a website it not bad, nor should we worry about being seen as manipulating links, what makes common sense usually works 99% of the time. Heck, i’ll take a no follow link from a decent website anytime, depends on what i want out of the link :)

Openly asking for links is not bad, selling links for the sole intention of manipulating the algo, i.e. Buy TBPR 5 links here, is something that Google is taking a closer look at @Dianne.

So that falls right in line with what Stuart mentions, if the average non power user or mom and pop site does not understand what we SEM folks know about links, should they be at all punished?

What probably makes a big difference, is the fact that you take the time to actually think about links and what you want to achieve, whereas some simply grab a mass submission tool of some sorts and randomly submit garbage to no avail.

My 2 cents, i think the fuss about manipulation and looking natural is much about nothing (let alone is they truly understand it) and simply confuses people reading about it, sending them off in a direction they don’t really need to go.

]]> By: TallTroll http://www.seo-chicks.com/1216/the-uncertainty-of-link-building.html#comment-18160 TallTroll Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:59:07 +0000 http://www.seo-chicks.com/?p=1216#comment-18160 Eh, Google doesn't know what it wants. I've long maintained that G engineers are great at Information Retrieval, and RUBBISH at search. They don't have a clue. Because in the nicest possible way, they are a bunch of self-selecting geeks, who don't understand people. Gee, wonder how that happened? I feel sorry for Matt. I heard stories about him, and I suspect some days he goes home and cries. Eh, Google doesn’t know what it wants. I’ve long maintained that G engineers are great at Information Retrieval, and RUBBISH at search. They don’t have a clue. Because in the nicest possible way, they are a bunch of self-selecting geeks, who don’t understand people. Gee, wonder how that happened?

I feel sorry for Matt. I heard stories about him, and I suspect some days he goes home and cries.

]]> By: Julie Joyce http://www.seo-chicks.com/1216/the-uncertainty-of-link-building.html#comment-18159 Julie Joyce Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:52:21 +0000 http://www.seo-chicks.com/?p=1216#comment-18159 Hey Stuart, and yes I could have delved further in, had I not been dying whilst writing this post haha! That's a damned good idea for my next blog post actually... Hey Stuart, and yes I could have delved further in, had I not been dying whilst writing this post haha! That’s a damned good idea for my next blog post actually…

]]> By: stuartpturner http://www.seo-chicks.com/1216/the-uncertainty-of-link-building.html#comment-18158 stuartpturner Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:38:32 +0000 http://www.seo-chicks.com/?p=1216#comment-18158 Good post Julie, although I think you could have delved further into this problem by defining exactly what you would describe as a 'natural' link profile and what you would class as 'unnatural'. Your average internet user has no idea how a search engine works (how it discovers, indexes and returns content to you) let alone how interlinking affects this process - so you've got to wonder if there would even be enough for search engines to go on if all link profiles were 'natural' in this sense (i.e. created by uninformed random linking using URLs). Good post Julie, although I think you could have delved further into this problem by defining exactly what you would describe as a ‘natural’ link profile and what you would class as ‘unnatural’.

Your average internet user has no idea how a search engine works (how it discovers, indexes and returns content to you) let alone how interlinking affects this process – so you’ve got to wonder if there would even be enough for search engines to go on if all link profiles were ‘natural’ in this sense (i.e. created by uninformed random linking using URLs).

]]> By: Diane http://www.seo-chicks.com/1216/the-uncertainty-of-link-building.html#comment-18157 Diane Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:36:30 +0000 http://www.seo-chicks.com/?p=1216#comment-18157 All links are done for a reason and it's only a matter of time before google switches it's rules again and penalises someone else for something new. A UK voucher website openly asks it's readers for links in return for entry to a prize draw. Is that the sort of thing google should be punishing? All links are done for a reason and it’s only a matter of time before google switches it’s rules again and penalises someone else for something new.
A UK voucher website openly asks it’s readers for links in return for entry to a prize draw. Is that the sort of thing google should be punishing?

]]> By: Julie Joyce http://www.seo-chicks.com/1216/the-uncertainty-of-link-building.html#comment-18155 Julie Joyce Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:38:24 +0000 http://www.seo-chicks.com/?p=1216#comment-18155 If all links are manipulated potentially, I'd imagine they could just discount them completely, or ignore them in the algorithm. I don't think that's likely considering the history...but maybe that's just my wishful thinking. If all links are manipulated potentially, I’d imagine they could just discount them completely, or ignore them in the algorithm. I don’t think that’s likely considering the history…but maybe that’s just my wishful thinking.

]]> By: Case Ernsting http://www.seo-chicks.com/1216/the-uncertainty-of-link-building.html#comment-18141 Case Ernsting Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:07:12 +0000 http://www.seo-chicks.com/?p=1216#comment-18141 I agree with Alan that all links are probably manipulated at some level, just like there is no genuinely selfless good deed. But how will Google rank pages at that point? I agree with Alan that all links are probably manipulated at some level, just like there is no genuinely selfless good deed. But how will Google rank pages at that point?

]]> By: Julie Joyce http://www.seo-chicks.com/1216/the-uncertainty-of-link-building.html#comment-18132 Julie Joyce Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:00:36 +0000 http://www.seo-chicks.com/?p=1216#comment-18132 She could be standing there in shock and horror that math exists, maybe. No, no it's not her. Damn it. Every time I put on my glasses and have my hair up I want to hunt moose though. She could be standing there in shock and horror that math exists, maybe. No, no it’s not her. Damn it. Every time I put on my glasses and have my hair up I want to hunt moose though.

]]> By: Gene Wicker Jr http://www.seo-chicks.com/1216/the-uncertainty-of-link-building.html#comment-18130 Gene Wicker Jr Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:32:32 +0000 http://www.seo-chicks.com/?p=1216#comment-18130 I'm wondering if the picture is Sarah Palin (Julie are you a fan?), but then she would never be standing at chalkboard with mathematical equations. I’m wondering if the picture is Sarah Palin (Julie are you a fan?), but then she would never be standing at chalkboard with mathematical equations.

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